Comments on: Back to the Future, Today’s Big Issues http://thedailykernel.com/2008/07/10/back-to-the-future-todays-big-issues/#utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=back-to-the-future-todays-big-issues Cleanup, Remediation and Restoration at the Presidio of San Francisco Tue, 02 Feb 2010 05:02:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Tony Holiday http://thedailykernel.com/2008/07/10/back-to-the-future-todays-big-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-206 Tony Holiday Mon, 08 Dec 2008 17:30:08 +0000 http://thedailykernel.com/?p=85#comment-206 Doug, just replied to an article in today's Examiner (12/8) regarding an update on the problems facing the Presidio in case the proposed museum does happen. As a walker (and lifetime rider of public transportation) I have sometimes feared for my life trying to cross curvy and busy Presidio streets while trying to get back on a pedestrian trail, and can imagine how much worse it could get for hikers with added cars in this area. Here's the reply -- just passing it on. "Hi Katie -- Re the very interesting article on the ongoing Presidio museum controversy, the SFMTA source got it wrong--it's three MUNI buses that serve the Presidio, not two. The #28 and #29 go to and from the Golden Gate Bridge-viewing area (the #29 stops near Baker Beach also), and the #43 MUNI stops near near the Letterman Digital Arts Center. But the latter is close enough to the Main Post area to easily walk to, so one could take the #43 to a stop nearest the proposed museum. I've taken all three of these buses many times in and out of the park. Then there are the PresidiGO buses -- which don't run often enough. If one wants to ascertain all the stops within the Presidio for MUNI, the information should be online. I do agree that all these lines should run more often. There is always so much vehicle traffic at the Golden Gate Bridge area and sometimes the buses and cars are bumper-to-bumper around here, just inching along. We certainly do NOT need more vehicle traffic in the Presidio. It is also quite dangerous for pedestrians. Cars speed around the curvy Presidio streets much too fast and too often for the safety of walkers trying to cross the streets. While I prefer to stay on hikers' trails, it's still sometimes necessary to cross one of the busy vehicle streets. Thanks for a great article! I'm NOT in favor of the museum in this area myself, but if one IS eventually built here, or for any other attractions that will draw large numbers of visitors, I think there should be a MUNI line that runs directly to the location, as now exists with the Bridge-viewing area. Better more buses than more cars! Tony, San Francisco" Doug, just replied to an article in today’s Examiner (12/8) regarding an update on the problems facing the Presidio in case the proposed museum does happen. As a walker (and lifetime rider of public transportation) I have sometimes feared for my life trying to cross curvy and busy Presidio streets while trying to get back on a pedestrian trail, and can imagine how much worse it could get for hikers with added cars in this area. Here’s the reply — just passing it on.

“Hi Katie –

Re the very interesting article on the ongoing Presidio museum controversy, the SFMTA source got it wrong–it’s three MUNI buses that serve the Presidio, not two. The #28 and #29 go to and from the Golden Gate Bridge-viewing area (the #29 stops near Baker Beach also), and the #43 MUNI stops near near the Letterman Digital Arts Center. But the latter is close enough to the Main Post area to easily walk to, so one could take the #43 to a stop nearest the proposed museum.

I’ve taken all three of these buses many times in and out of the park. Then there are the PresidiGO buses — which don’t run often enough.

If one wants to ascertain all the stops within the Presidio for MUNI, the information should be online.

I do agree that all these lines should run more often. There is always so much vehicle traffic at the Golden Gate Bridge area and sometimes the buses and cars are bumper-to-bumper around here, just inching along.

We certainly do NOT need more vehicle traffic in the Presidio. It is also quite dangerous for pedestrians. Cars speed around the curvy Presidio streets much too fast and too often for the safety of walkers trying to cross the streets. While I prefer to stay on hikers’ trails, it’s still sometimes necessary to cross one of the busy vehicle streets.

Thanks for a great article! I’m NOT in favor of the museum in this area myself, but if one IS eventually built here, or for any other attractions that will draw large numbers of visitors, I think there should be a MUNI line that runs directly to the location, as now exists with the Bridge-viewing area. Better more buses than more cars!

Tony, San Francisco”

]]> By: PresidioPal http://thedailykernel.com/2008/07/10/back-to-the-future-todays-big-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-65 PresidioPal Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:07:38 +0000 http://thedailykernel.com/?p=85#comment-65 Doug, As a person who spent several years in the world of museum management, I applaud your vision of a Presidio where the programs relate to the world and world issues. The Presidio HIstorical Association introduced a proposal for a "History Center at the Golden Gate" located on the Presidio that would weave themes of cultural changes, economic uniqueness of the West of Sierras region to the rest of the U.S., American role on the Pacific Rim, and environmental consequences into a story of the Golden Gate and the Presidio. It would be a history of our remarkable region of the world and the many ties the Presidio has with that history. For example, did you know how rich wildlife was when the first Europeans arrived? The first white man in a canoe paddling up the Sacramento River had to post an Indian on the bow with a stick to beat a path through rafts of water fowl, for example. Did you know that America's first reach for empire in Asia was based at the Presidio in the Spanish American War to seize the Philippines, our first permanent presence in the Asia/Pacific region, and our first overseas "counterinsurgency' war against residents of a land who resisted our permanent occupation? Doug, As a person who spent several years in the world of museum management, I applaud your vision of a Presidio where the programs relate to the world and world issues. The Presidio HIstorical Association introduced a proposal for a “History Center at the Golden Gate” located on the Presidio that would weave themes of cultural changes, economic uniqueness of the West of Sierras region to the rest of the U.S., American role on the Pacific Rim, and environmental consequences into a story of the Golden Gate and the Presidio. It would be a history of our remarkable region of the world and the many ties the Presidio has with that history. For example, did you know how rich wildlife was when the first Europeans arrived? The first white man in a canoe paddling up the Sacramento River had to post an Indian on the bow with a stick to beat a path through rafts of water fowl, for example. Did you know that America’s first reach for empire in Asia was based at the Presidio in the Spanish American War to seize the Philippines, our first permanent presence in the Asia/Pacific region, and our first overseas “counterinsurgency’ war against residents of a land who resisted our permanent occupation?

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